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I'm probably going to go mad here with an excessive amount of pictures of Classic Cars. Standby!

...indeed I have, but I've stopped now. Phew!

But yours truly took a break last week.I took an amble down along the French coast with fragrant co-driver in place, and all to get a bit of a break from the rigours of doing Doverforum. No more cameras thought I, no more editorial nightmares...Im hanging up those cameras, Im hanging up my boots, Im hanging up my...well thats enought of that. Suffice to say I hung everything up...or more accurately, intended to do so.
 

But lo and behold, we arrive in the hot and thriving Deauville and what do we find but a weekend celebrating the Bugatti motor car and its long association with both Deauville and the early days of motor racing. Fab-tastic! To hear these beauties make their throbbing growling way through the leafy affluent streets was really something. Vroom Vroom! they went..throb throb! Naturally enough within seconds my thoughts returned to Doverforum and all our readers and members, who are always all agog and desperate to get the latest look at super shiny heavy classic metal.

And not to disappoint, here we are...
 

Somebody stop me !
 



 

 

Okay Ive gone mad with the pictures but now all done ..completo, finitto. I have more pix, but excessive indulgence is bad for you.
But who can name all the cars??

Okay ..a stab at naming all the cars. Im no expert, but the first one is easy as there was a plaque beside it. They will print these things in French though!lol! Top one is a Bugatti Royale, obviously worth a fortune as watched by security guards. I wont get too ambitious and try to name the models of the cars but just the make as it were. Second is a Rolls Royce. Third one in blue is a Nash. Then a super Jaguar. Then a couple of Bugattis in early racing trim. Another Jaguar...Jaguar were of course a great British racing name in those old days. Then the super helmeted Biggles reversing his Bugatti into position. The red one baffles me, it has a Union Jack on the side, it looks like an MG but is it? Ah...we've had some info on the little red car through from Ken Baker..its a Lea-Francis. Well I never knew that..Then some French glamour purring her Bugatti engine into place. Last but not least is a Delahaye. If you ever wondered what a Delahaye looked like, well now you know. I was expecting Maigret to step out of this one. The building behind is the magnificent Hotel Normandie Barriere.

Thousands and thousands of people came to see these cars. Much as what happened with our Rolls Royce celebration here. We really should have an annual classic car event here on Dover Seafront. Thousands of people will come and put money into our local economy...its not that tall an order achieving something like this. PB.

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  howardmcsweeney, Dover:
you may be right about people looking after themselves keith, the only way is for central government to create unitary authorities.

that would be against the localism agenda though.

29 July 2010 at 3:00 pm
 
  kEITH, DOVER:
UNITARY OR NOT?????????????????????????

We differ on this but you have to admire REG to continue his battle for sa unitary authority.

To look a little deeper into his comments;

KCC Chief executive likely to be earning over £150,000
DDCChief executive likely to be earning over £120,000
DTC Clerk likely to be earning over £40,000

thats just the top officers,
below that you have directors on up to £100,000 then 2 or 3
tiers ogf officers eaning close to that figure.

Imagine, as Reg say the total cost of these 3 councils total
staffing costs, just in the top tiers!!!!

Although Reg is correct the costs would make a big saving, but sounds like it's over 10 years before any govt will touch the issue again.

My only concern is in South wales where I watched a district council get eaten up by a unitary council and liocal voices lost, these questions remain unanswered.
Sure they can be overcome.

Don't forget also last time unitaries were discussed in Kent/Dover
the political parties/non politicals persons all fought there own corners, so it didn't happen.


over to you Reg,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

29 July 2010 at 1:52 pm
 
  Tracey , Dover :
Thanks Paul i am getting a real Whizz on this now !!! watch out haha

29 July 2010 at 9:37 am
 
  PaulB (dover7@msn.com), Dover:
Interesting one there Reg....we may get a response from the man himself although it might be too hot a potato!?


But back to the cars for a moment....

Crikey Ken, didnt realise the Bugatti above was worth soooo much. I was standing in the shadow of greatness and didnt realise it. Thanks for that info, also thanks re the little red car, hadnt heard of a Lea-Francis before, New one on me. Well done. Will change the copy above before it goes into the archives.

DavidH..'twould be good if something could be organised.... your right worshipfullness self...thought I'd grovel a bit there with the worshipful stuff. But really it could be a legacy for you to leave behind. Just think...The David Hannent motor rally! I know you are an enthusiast and thats great. As is Ken there...and thousands would turn up.

Sabine yes a lot of cars pass through on the way to Le Mans. I got some pictures of them recently myself...would indeed be a good time for a seafront rally. Many stay at the seafront hotels anyway.

Many thanks for all the further comments.

29 July 2010 at 9:20 am
 
  Reg Hansell, Shepherdswell:
Evolution ?

DDC Leader Paul Watkins states.``You can envisage that Councils could merge by evolution and natural conclusion``
Why wait for evolution??
The Coalition Government say the BBC executive are to big,earn to much and their pensions are excessive.We say the DDC executive are to big,earn to much and their pensions are excessive.The Coalition Government mean to sort out the BBC!!! Who will sort out the DDC and the other three District Councils executive of East Kent??
We need the majority of the staff of these Councils but not the four sets of their executives costs!!!
Do we need four sets of executives for East Kent??

29 July 2010 at 9:03 am
 
  David H, Dover:
Thank you for all that Paul
Yes I do have in mind a dover event or two in 2012 and have spoken to RR who are for it in principal. I am also a member if the Jaguar club and will be talking to them . What it does need is an organisation here to take it on board and Tourism in Dover is undergoing a "structural change"
I am a great enthusiast so wont let it slip if I can but have rather a lot on at the moment and support is needed.

29 July 2010 at 8:08 am
 
  Ken Baker, Vintage:
Re: The security around the Bugatti Royale

Five of the Six Bugatti Royales (Type 41) were on display in the open in the rain at the Goodwood Festival of Speed in 2007 without any ropes or barriers. It was suggested at the time that the five cars were worth a total of around $60,000,000 ! (Sixty million dollars)

29 July 2010 at 7:55 am
 
  Ken Baker, River:
The red car white the white bonnet is a Lea-Francis, a sporting car of the pre war years. Many are still used in historic racing events.

29 July 2010 at 6:05 am
 
  Roger, Dover:
Great cars and great photos Paul - good job you didn't leave your camera behind.

Perhaps the Town and District Councils could get together to create a couple of classic car events each year; everyone loves them and they do bring in the crowds.

Thanks again Paul for sharing them with us - greate indulgence.




Roger

29 July 2010 at 5:57 am
 
  Sabine, Canterbury:
Many lovely old classic cars pass through Dover each June on the way to Le Mans. May be, a Classic Car Dover Show could be organised to coincide with this special event. I love classic cars and Dover is perfect for it.

28 July 2010 at 11:19 pm
 
  colin, Dover:
I`ll never tire of viewing classic cars, and I`m still hoping for another event similar to that fantastic Rolls Royce weekend we had recently on our sea front. The classic car in that last picture of your`s Paul certainly compliment`s those building`s in the background.

28 July 2010 at 7:51 pm
 
  Barry W-S, Dover:
Love the picture of the Delahaye PaulB, the only time I got to clap my eyes on this beautiful classic car was in Le Touquet a while back. The wonderful lines of cars from an age gone by is a wonder to behold, Great Photos.

28 July 2010 at 6:30 pm
 
  Jeane, Essex.:
Sigh…..all those beautiful cars. Great photos.

28 July 2010 at 6:22 pm
 
  Jan Tranter, Dover:
As the great display of pictures above show no matter where you are Dover seafront or Deauville, these old classic cars always attract attention.
It was a treat to see them arrrive and park in front of such a magnificent hotel.

28 July 2010 at 4:58 pm
 
  PaulB (dover7@msn.com), Dover:
Thanks for the comments on the cars guys, these classics are always popular...heavens they even inspired Tracey to log in for the first time. Well done Tracey, youre very welcome. Glad you managed it.

Yes the philosophy or strategy is fairly simple...get the cars to turn up and so will the crowds. Takes a bit of organising initially with the motoring clubs but once this is in place it could run and run. Not too expensive either. I think our Deputy Mayor Mr Hannent hinted previously that something like this could be possible. An event to get the tourists turning up rather than passing by would be a winner for the town.

28 July 2010 at 4:53 pm
 
  Paul aka Scotchie, Deal:
The Bucket and Spade in Ramsgate is always a good one, so why not Dover ?

28 July 2010 at 4:24 pm
 
  howardmcsweeney, Dover:
the town looks stunning with the flowers and the buildings.

a great backdrop for the stunning cars.

28 July 2010 at 2:29 pm
 
  Alexander, Dover :
Keith, may-be a free ride too, I sometimes think! A fine collection! Lovely looking cars.

28 July 2010 at 2:12 pm
 
  keith, Dover:
I think we should have as many events as we can going on in Dover.

28 July 2010 at 1:33 pm
 
  Sid Perkins (sidperkins@btinternet.com), Dover:
Great photos PaulB, many thanks for sharing them with us. Annual motor event in Dover? Agreed, the town should do it.

28 July 2010 at 10:11 am
 
  keith, Dover:
paulb
i know

28 July 2010 at 10:10 am
 
  Tracey , Dover :
Hey Paul B i did it hahaha logged in all on my own !!! what lovely cars if only they made them that way still i would buy one!!!

28 July 2010 at 9:41 am
 
  PaulB (dover7@msn.com), Dover:
Note for Sue and Keef : guys you can post LIVE on this frontpage as you are members, but just log in first.

There is a slight delay for members who dont log in.
There is also a slight delay for non members.

But all welcome.

28 July 2010 at 8:40 am
 
  keith, Dover:
JACQUI,
I have never said we are NOT friends, just giving Roger sound advice which he can take, or not, all in his control.

hope you are well

keith

28 July 2010 at 6:57 am
 
  Sue , River:
To make it clear the cinema event at Connaught is Free.I was indicating the tickets would become available

Free Free

27 July 2010 at 11:30 pm
 
  Jacqui, Dover:
Keith,

I apologise for my comments. Having been out of the circuit for a while I was not aware of all the facts. I now know why you said what you did and understand fully. I wasn't interfering, just giving my opinion (something you are hot on!)but I do accept that I was wrong. Friends again? ;-)

Vic - sorry love - no fighting, just a mistake on my part - all friends again now I hope.

27 July 2010 at 9:09 pm
 
  Steve Power (stevepower90@hotmail.com), Plymouth,Ma. USA:
Hi,Jacqui,
Good to see you back on site-keep in touch,Steve.

27 July 2010 at 8:43 pm
 
  keith, Dover:
ROGER
I hope my advice can be taken as it was intended, to help.

27 July 2010 at 7:34 pm
 
  howardmcsweeney, Dover:
cannot see a problem, nothing has been said that is not in the public domain.

27 July 2010 at 5:40 pm
 
  Roger, Dover:
Thank you both Jacqui and Keith.

I understand that any potentially libellous comments made by me have been removed from the Forum some time ago.

I am conscious of what I post and have never intended anything to be libellous; if I have accidentally made any libellous statements - about anyone, then I unconditionally apologise.




Roger

27 July 2010 at 5:24 pm
 
  Vic Matcham, River:
Jacqui v Keith, I AM KEEPING OUT OF THIS ONE.

27 July 2010 at 3:30 pm
 
  keith, Dover:
Lovely Jacqui

Although you have CHOSEN to INTERFERE I'm happy to explain

Roger and I have worked closely together in the past, and although Roger may feel he has said nothing in a libel way, solicitors are paid to find holes, and theres no doubt from the postings that Roger has an axe to grind.

Take it from me, having worked closely with Roger It was helpful advice which Roger can decide to Ignore if thats his wish.

please don't try to find issues with things that are not there
Just trying to help Roger and advise
its a matter of take it or leave it advice.

Roger I'm sure is big enough to speak for himself,
and make his own mind up if to take advice or not

27 July 2010 at 2:17 pm
 
  Sue , River :
I stand corrected The Cinema Event will be held on August 27Th at Connaught Park .Alvin @The Chipmunks 2 .
Tickets on sale next month .
Well done DDC

27 July 2010 at 12:03 pm
 
  Jacqui, Dover:
A couple of years ago we went to Pollensa on Majorca. There was a beautiful market Square there, surrounded by cafes and bars. During the day people sat there for a coffee or a light lunch in a wonderful atmosphere. In the evening and into the small hours it was always busy with people dining or just enjoying a drink. Music was playing in the background and we never once saw any trouble there. Nearby was a taxi rank so there was no need to drive if you wanted to drink. It was a magical place to be where all nations mingled together happily. I have often thought that with the right planning our square could be very similar.I'm sure there are places not dissimilar to Pollensa in this country, so why not in Dover?
With regard to Rogers comments, he is a very intelligent and wise man who would not publish anything that was libelous so may I (humbly) suggest that he does not need the advice of an ex councillor before saying what he wants to say.
Oh yes - doesn't the sea front look lovely? First time I've been down for a while and was very pleasantly surprised.

27 July 2010 at 11:49 am
 
  keith, Dover:
ROGER
I do agree with your latest posting on C.O.C. but reading a dictionary is not thre same as a solicitor looking for blood!!!
So I would humbly suggest you let this go.


On the market square screen/cafe the tables have been outside dickens etc for some time and I have used them, but never witnessed problems, and certainly a welcome stopping point for many and meeting place, sad realy that some business's are trying to make the effort.



27 July 2010 at 10:14 am
 
  sue , River:
There are tables and chairs outside of Dickens ,Bar Elle and round the corner in Church StreeT .I donot find it very attractive stumbling over chaps with glasses of Larger in their hands at 9.00 am in the morning
The same can be said of Canterbury where the masses sit outside of Makdonalds .

Perhaps if our shops were to be decorated with bunting and more live entertainment in the street .
Market Square has been ruined with the presence of the large screen and a boarded up fountain .When busses used to travel throught the Square it was much better .

27 July 2010 at 8:59 am
 
  PaulB (dover7@msn.com), Dover:
Yes I mention the continental approach in the copy above...I should have flagged it up more but will reproduce it here now as the page above will be changing shortly...

"These events in Market Square wont take off because the basic ingredients for a good and pleasant time are not in place. There are no tables, no chairs, no umbrellas keeping the burning sun off our furrowed brows, no drinks, no food...this is NOT the way our continental friends do it, look at their squares...packed! Why are we not to be trusted with our Camparis and our chilled Chardonnays on a summer's day in Market Sq? Are we the beating savage breast/beast of humanity while our continental friends are oh so sophisticated in comparison? PB."

I was on a roll there....lol!

27 July 2010 at 8:01 am
 
  Roger, Dover:
Thanks Keith - I agree that "least said soonest mended" is usually best and I have been very careful not to say anything that is not true.

In the dictionary and I'm sure in law, it states "a published false statement damaging to a person's reputation". In other words, telling lies about someone.
I do not think I have published lies about anyone.

Colin - I agree the Market Square should be like an Italian, French or Spanish Piazza, where people can eat and drink at their leisure.

I don't think the general public would allow it to turn into a haven for drunks.
Careful licensing and careful policing would allow and encourage a great cafe culture, where sensible people really enjoy relaxing and watching the world go by.

Most things seem to get spoilt by the few, so the many have to go without.

Turning the Market Square as described above was just a part of my many initiatives as Dover Business Support Manager.

Because I am not involved anymore and because the DBS Manager's role has been downgraded to a part-time one, I have no idea how anything worthwhile can emanate from that role now.



Roger

27 July 2010 at 6:45 am
 
  colin, Dover:
As soon as I hit the Market Square Howard, so does the sound of a loud tv. Nothing wrong with trying to promote things locally on there, but why do they have news flowing along underneath? As Iv`e said before on here, do tourist`s really want to come and listen about Afghanistan, Iraq, etc? The Market Square is a wonderful place for conversation`s, turn the tv off and open a cafe`s round it with a continental flavour as someone mentioned on here last year. We`ll have to meet down there for a chat sometime Howard, would be an interesting conversation mate.

26 July 2010 at 10:52 pm
 
  howardmcsweeney, Dover:
there seems to be no sound colin.

i rather like the constant promotions of events in our district.

market square is not the place for quiet conversations, never has been in the past.

26 July 2010 at 10:40 pm
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